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Porphyropoles/porphyropolis Mar. 21st, 2011 @ 01:25 pm
I have recently been studying the occurrence (or lack thereof) of "gender-neutral" occupations as held in Scripture (both the NT and OT). I happened upon Acts 16:14 wherein Lydia is called a "seller of purple" (porphyropolis). This is evidently the feminine form of the term "porphyropoles". Since there are both masculine and feminine forms of the term in Greek, I am wondering if this occupation was performed by both males and females. If so, there is no indication given that the church disapproved of females being "sellers of purple" and so, this scripture, by implication, may lend (scriptural) support to (or at least not disapproval of) certain gender-neutral occupations.

My questions are: Is there any other evidence (historically?/scripturally?) for other (apparently) gender-neutral occupations among the Jews in the OT and/or among the Christians in the NT? Also, could the masculine form of "porphyropoles" be used also to refer to (only?) women who engaged in such an occupation?

An unsourced Lucretius quote Dec. 4th, 2010 @ 12:59 pm
Hi everyone, my mother is writing a PhD on an unrelated subject discipline - medical stuff - but she has various philosophical wandering in it. Anyway she has a quote:
"The nature of knowledge cannot be understood by the eyes" Lucretius
without a reference. I have looked through the Perseus for On the Nature of Things and oud some likely culprits who may have been casually reworded, but I am really not sure. Any vaguely Lucretian scholars around? I have already tried googling and google books and google scholar. I am lost!

Here were my tenuous findings:
in book 2: So, too, since we behold not all with eyes,

in book 3:
Or, to say that eyes
Themselves can see no thing, but through the same
The mind looks forth, as out of opened doors,
Is- a hard saying; since the feel in eyes
Says the reverse. For this itself draws on
And forces into the pupils of our eyes
Our consciousness. And note the case when often
We lack the power to see refulgent things,
Because our eyes are hampered by their light-
With a mere doorway this would happen not;
For, since it is our very selves that see,
No open portals undertake the toil.
Besides, if eyes of ours but act as doors,
Methinks that, were our sight removed, the mind
Ought then still better to behold a thing-

and book 4:
Now then, learn
How tenuous is the nature of an image.
And in the first place, since primordials be
So far beneath our senses, and much less
E'en than those objects which begin to grow
Too small for eyes to note,

Thanks for any help which you could give.

Trouble with the Iliad Nov. 21st, 2010 @ 08:45 pm
I have googled this and I've thumbed through my copy of Robert Fagles translation, but I can't find it. It's a section where Achilles wishes that all the world was dead aside from himself and Patroclus, so that there was nothing but him and his glory. It was apparently one of the sections that ancient commentators found shocking or controversial.

Speaking of which does anyone have any recommendations when it comes to commentaries on the Iliad? I'm interested in ancient literary criticism, but it seems to be hard to come by.

And the winner is... Nov. 7th, 2010 @ 12:15 pm
ahsavka with a recreation of the Libation Scene by Macron.

Congratulations to all of our contestants!
Current Mood: pleasedpleased

Voting on the Pumpkin Contest Nov. 4th, 2010 @ 09:14 am
We have three amazing entries this year.

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Poll #1640666 2010 Classics Pumpkin Pot Contest

Which pumpkin should win this year's contest?

Entry 1: Athena's Owl Coin
Entry 2: Libation Scene
Entry 3: Bellerophon, Pegagus, and Chimera
Other entries
» Pumpkin Carving Contest Reminder
Just a reminder that you have until Nov 3 at 11pm EST to post your classical pumpkins as a response to this entry to be entered in our Annual Pumpkin Carving Contest.

Four of you said that you would definitely enter the contest. So far we only have one entry.
» Annual Pumpkin Carving Contest
Due to overwhelming demand, we will be having our Annual Pumpkin Carving Contest!

The rules:
1. Carve a pumpkin on a classics related theme (anything related to ancient Greece or Rome)
2. Take a picture or two of it
3. Post your pictures as a comment to this post by Nov. 3 @ 11pm EST.

The community will vote for the best pumpkin. Winner will have their picture placed on the community info page and may also receive an as-yet-to-be-determined prize.

I look forward to seeing your creations.
» Question for the community:
Poll #1630627 Pumpkin Carving Contest

Should we hold the Classics Community Pumpkin Carving Contest this year?


If we did hold it, would you participate?


» Marathon2500
I haven't seen this posted yet, so thought I'd pass it on. As you may know, we are coming up to the 2500th anniversary of the Battle of Marathon, and the Marathon2500 project are running a series of free lectures/webinars to mark the event.

Marathon2500's website is here; the page for booking free 'tickets' for the live lectures or the webinars is here. There are some good folks speaking, so even if you can't be there in person, you can still listen in.

The line-up is as follows:

1. Paul Cartledge, Cambridge/NYU, Tue Sep 28 @5:30pm ET, "The Context and Meaning of the Battle."
2. Peter Krentz, Davidson College, Tue Oct 12 @ 7pm ET, "The Battle Itself."
3. Victor Davis Hanson, Hoover Institution, Wed Nov 10 @ 1pm ET, "Life of a Soldier—Greek and Persian."
4. Thomas Harrison, University of Liverpool, Tue Jan 18 @ 1pm ET, "The Persian Version."
5. Dean Karnazes, world-renowned ultramarathoner, Wed Feb 9 @ 1pm ET "The Battle and Modern Sports."
6. Thomas Scanlon, UC Riverside, Tue Apr 5 @ 1pm ET "Sports and War."
7. Robert Strassler, Independent Scholar, Tue May 10 @ 1pm ET "Herodotus and the Invention of History."
8. John Marincola, Florida State University, Wed Jun 8 @ 4pm ET "Epilogue: What happened after the Battle."
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